I would even venture to say its a 50/50 gamble when buying a Kel Tec. I certainly wouldnt be happy. They never protected their early designs/. I had a CPX-2, functionality and reliability i couldnt complain about. Unless you can document that, I think you are off base posting what is basically a rumor. No it is not a light striker fired trigger. But if carry options are limited to just a pocket carry for you (i.e. You do that and you will find hipoints and cobras to work as they are intended. The Recoil spring is a one spring like almost any other. The LCP II also features forward and rear serrations on the slide, whereas the original LCP only featured serrations on the rear. She shot both, along with a used Beretta .380, and chose the Sig despite the price being just about double at the time. That thing is a freaking beast of a gun in terms of durability (yes, I have seen torture tests of it). Those were the worst. Do it outside with the gun pointing at the ground and mind your hand positions. I think the SCCY might be marginally better and has 2 mags. The spreadsheet seems flawed to me. I shoot pocket guns all the time. You have not spoken to anyone that has something positive to say about the Pico? Still cant find that silent u in it to make it sky. It covers the trigger guard of the pistol and has a hook and sticky material to stay secure in your pocket so it is easy to draw the pistol from your pocket without bringing the holster with it. I was thinking the same thing as I read this article. Most often the issue is people dry firing, or using hollowpoints. Stainless steel throughout the gun. I bought a SCCY CPX-2 a few months ago . If its good Ill spread the word. I am surprised high point 380 & 9mm werent included in your list. Her gun was unloaded while the thugs were not. (I call the SCCY, my Sunday go-to-meeting piece. The Mag release is a piece of cake. It shoots all varieties of .380 ammo Ive ever run through it. Also cobra has a lifetime warranty on their guns if you do the warranty. I think you would be hard pressed to find any thing this good for that price. I was also surprised to find the CM40 rated so poorly. You can get these on line at times for The movie Gigli had the worst, lowest rating ever on IMDB, voted on by tens of thousands of people. The Manual says clearly not to dry fire the gun without snap caps. That could happen with any gun someone didnt ,maintain and hadnt tested out at the range. Wanted to check to see if my comments really apply to your site, and it looks like your server is in melt-down. My son made sure I carried a SW9VE for daily use. To each his own . Learn to shoot pocket guns and find the truth yourself and stop listening to counter Clerks at big Box stores. I have 100s of rounds through both my kahrs with zero fails. I alone will take up the Masterpiece banner, carry it aloft, plant it on the nearest peak and proclaim, Get thee 6 extra recoil springs and thou shalt have a decent pistol for a year or more, even.. Did it require a break in, a fluff & buff, a whole plethora of different ammo to get my approval? Just like Fords. I fire a couple of magazines a month thru them so as not to get too rusty . Prohibition: Why It Wouldnt Work Any Better With Guns Than It Did With Alcohol, Defendant Agrees Appeals Court Should Uphold Injunction Blocking New Yorks Law Banning Carrying Guns in Sensitive Places, Judge Robert L. Miller: Its an Insult to the Founders to Assume They Didnt Expect Gun Control in Future Generations. Thank-you. I had huge issues with a Kahr, so they will never get my money again. Literally, it is.) I have shot the Pico with thousands of rounds and can honestly say I have Never had ONE single failure out of thousands of rounds. He may want to trade the SCCY with the safety in for one of the newer ones without a safety. I love mine(CPX 2,no safety) Best carry gun for your dollar bar none. For its purpose, NOT Bullseye competition, it is a fine gun. Given how clannish and brand-loyal a lot of gunners are, it wouldnt shock me if about half the votes against the SCCY were cast because it wasnt a Glock 43, or something equally biased and stupid. Last but not least, and while this is entirely personal preference, many regard .380 autos as having poor ergonomics due to the fact that their extraordinarily small size means you cant get a full grip on them. According to our peers, here are the six worst pocketguns, from less awful to worstest. TTAG has some of the worst reviewers in history. check the ammo?? The problem with the group wisdom line of thinking is that you cannot separate the people with actual hands on experience with the firearm in question from actual users, which is always a problem with new guns. I think Jimenez and Lorcen companies went bankrupt. Why Beretta didnt copy the ergonomics on that is a mystery to me. Booth #72617 Cabot Guns 4) Beretta Pico(4.1 stars 0.3, 134 votes), Color me shockedto see the Pico down here with the bottom feeders because Beretta is a major manufacturer that produces lots of quality firearms. But thats just me Not everyone places as much weight on user ratings as I do. My NAA .380 ACP with Novak 3 dot night sights has been 100% reliable with every ammo tried and as accurate as I am. Otherwise you will just get a ton of, Wait, that gun is not a GLOCK! It feels good in the hand and the materials and workmanship are fine. Just keep shooting your pistol. I love this site and usually stand behind the things written on it, but this is absolute trash and clickbait. Im a Glock 27 guy, so I dont mind recoil. It came back still not fixed. Actually bought a second one. Unfortunately, each of these pistols and others in their class suffer from a number of serious flaws. Still, if youre looking for a all purpose value like pistol then look no further (hesk Ive seen them for $200 NIB out the doorAnd yes, Kel-Tec got copied yet again! So far wevecollected roughly 34,000 votes with an average rating of 6.1 overall. At first glance, Japans first semi-automatic pistol design resembles the iconic Jimenez was one former name for Cobra also Loren was also a former name . Ruger LCR Pistol Ruger LCR Ruger LCR .357 Mag. Ill take more objective reviews from knowledgeable shooters. In the case of the SCCY they are worth it. If one MUST have a 9mm pocket gun, then the Kahr PM9/CM9 is really the only choice. BUT! There are many more maligned pocket guns and sub-compacts on the market than these two. How about some info on some of the pocket pistols that may be considered the best? Ruger LCR in 38 spcl +P. I owned a SCCY CPX-2 (notice the past tense). Certainly one of the ugliest pistols ever manufactured, this weapon made the list of worst military pistols because its dangerous design easily surpassed its repellant appearance. Just being a bashing b**** , gets you nowhere. It went on to launch a revolution of micro .380 handguns. Actually, the KelTec P11 is the same size, came first and holds two more rounds. Even your most expensive 1911s, Colts, S&W and Glocks will jam or miss fire from time to time. The SCCY model CPX-2 is a fine lightweight pistol that shoots a stopper round 9mm. And I will do my best to talk others out of Kahr products. Um the SCCY is a near exact copy of the nearby(Cocoa,Fl) Keltec P-11. Think he went through that with customer service Ill give ya the mag though. I love this gun for the price, and just because its not made by Glock means nothing to me. First of all I do have the Kahr and like the gun very much. they do have a 200 round break in that they tell you to expect possible fails also. Anyone have the Bersa .380. I assume the reason the CM40 sucks is similar. Hi points work if you use FMJ and clean and oil the gun. Well, yes, Gigli did suck, but that wasnt known until later. Apparently their readership likes Sigs with large sample sizes. These flaws include, but are not limited to: .380 pocket pistols have a well-deserved reputation for having some of the worst trigger pulls of any semi-automatic pistols on the market. But with the right technique and practice, its fine. At my handgun review and rating site, gunsgunsguns.net, we offer star ratings on a scale of 110 for every gun featured on the site. But with 99 votes in, the math is clear: the CPX-2 stinks. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. I just hated the trigger. She has had limp wrist cycling problems with other semi-auto pistols in the past. Cobra lasted 10 minutes in my house. The first generation CPX-1s had some problems and gave the company a bad rep starting out, but the company was so adamant that they fixed their second Gen guns that you can send any of the old ones back (they shipped in red boxes) and they will replace them with brand new Gen 2s (which ship in blackish gray boxes). By the way John, I have the Kahr, yes nice gun.Shoots well. Like others, I am a bit surprised by the poor showing of the Beretta. All you did is look at numerical reviews on the internet. Only drawback is the 2D trigger. (Though they have better triggers than the early LCPs, thats not enough), You should try mine. Most of the post are from newbies that know very little about guns in the first place. like any gun it can have its issues so can the SCCY but if you really look at it, compact light and Copyright 2023 Center for the National Interest All Rights Reserved. It would likely be more meaningful. In a fight you wont notice it. So I returned it to them, they replaced several worn parts and returned it. And the Pico will run like a sewing machine. Kahr makes a lot of pocket guns, and several of them rate really well. The Ring of Fire guns are small, super Not cheap, but beautifully crafted. WHAT ARE THE DISADVANTAGES OF THE .380 POCKET PISTOL? I trust my Hellcat 380 as much as I do my S & W 39, but I prefer a tight revolver over any semi-auto when my life depends on it. So now I have a paperweight in the shape of a gun ! When it comes to a worst list omitting anything made by Kel Tec is a mistake. Total joke. Funny the SCCY was rated on 2 other surveys as one of the top 5 affordable and reliable pocket guns. I really think you never did anything with the Pico other than Picking one up and then getting of the internet and posting without any knowledge of how to use the firearm. The mag will spring out when done correctly. As far as the magazine release, its perfect for my needs. No problem with the SCCY at all. Taurus TCP voted best value-best overall 380 was Kahr p380-MUCH more expensive. None. I really wanted to like the gun. I wouldnt bother to get that info from this site. He talks about having to yank the Mag. The S&W MP EZ 380 read the reviews even on the Glock site they praise the SW MP 380 EZ I carry it about as often as I carry a Glock 19 mainly based upon clothing/belt shortcomings in dress scenarios. An odd shaped frame that in my opinion they actually went too small on trying to outdo everyone to be the king of small in 380s. For this purpose, I actually switched to an NAA pug. Ruger has proven that you dont need to have an arduous and gritty trigger pull on a .380 auto and its likely that more manufacturers will now follow their lead. When I hear someone put down the Pico, I know they do not shoot often. . the Truth about Guns is one of the most biased groups around. And I dont know why Keltec lets Ruger & SCCY(and the defunct hellcat) slavishly copy their designs. No issue with it. I had 4 LCPs that went down with cracked grips, frames, broken take down pin, split rails etc. More than ever, the PPK is a statement of sophistication. The SCCY is even rated for +P ammo, in modest doses, according to the company. Or having the mag cleaned and inspected? We buy a pocket gun for last-ditch self defense, which literally makes it a do-or-die gun. Or has been suggested earlier you can just go snub nosed revolver. So, pocket guns being inherently hard to shoot and prone to limp wristing will experience failures. Obvious, one writers bias, trying to get internet rookies to bash guns most have never shot nor even understand. There is an author named John Lott, who became a best seller from an unknown very quickly by doing exactly that. Not sure why the Sccy is on this list, I own a cpx2 and its great! The trigger is fantastic, and reassuring in handling and holstering (leather IWB) in ways that Glock is not. Every gun has its limitations and knowledge goes a long way to ensure a positive outcome when it happens. Actually if the SCCY is on here then the Mill Pro G2 should be also, and that gun is a trainwreck compared to the SCCY. You really missed this one. You fire as soon as you pull and have aimed. With a much lighter trigger, enhanced slide serrations, wider grip, impressive stippling job, and the ability to slide lock on the last round, the LCP II is a definitive improvement over other comparable .380 pocket guns. Its is almost universally panned from young guys working behind the counter at Academy Sports to anyone who works in local gun shops. That right there should have indicated that something was up when they feature it at a SHOT SHOW and it takes 2 years to finally put it out for sale. Its a sharp designed pistol with a great price . It is my favorite except the 15 ounce weight makes it have more recoil than a typical 9mm. Thanks for your post. I like its feel in my hand. Horrible, awful trigger. I have 2 of them. After we shot a bit we could ring that gong regularly. Now I feel like I have t fire the XDS 9MM again before I trust it, Really shook me up when I casually pressed the trigger and got a light clunk. You need to learn more about handguns before posting such nonsense. And than some. I was glad not to see Kel Tac on the bottom list. For 2022, the Roughneck will be available in a recoil-friendly .380 ACP. WebBest 9mm Concealed Carry (CCW) Pistol - SIG Sauer P365. No gun, none, should have a mag release that is that stiff and impossible to use fast and effectively, especially in a carry gun none the less. Try the Sig P938 If you are truly carrying for protection you dont mind the Sig Price if your life is on the line and the P938 shoots like a minature 1911 Love mine and have had several friends buy them after shooting my P938 SAS. :p. People generally avoid spam masquerading as journalism. There are two primary uses for the LCP II: concealed carry and/or as a back-up pistol. Nicer than the price would indicate. Thousands of flawless rounds and handles Hot ammo better than most guns handle standard ammo. Every one of these pistols are incredibly easy to conceal in your pocket. More power to him I say. Its been reliable since then for me. Go to the Beretta form Pico and the gun is loved by many. My dad bought a CPX-whichever has the safety about a month ago; Ill have to ask him what he thinks of it next time we talk. The wisdom of the crowd phenomenon? In light of that, the valuable service you claim hes doing may well be smoke and mirrors. Painful to shoot, yes, but thats what you get when the gun barely weighs more than the bullet it fires. Types Of .380 Pistols Subcompact vs Micro-Compact Single-Stack vs Double-Stack Magazines What Should You Look for in a But, it doesnt like to be dirty. Of all the firearm purchases you may make in your lifetime, a pocket gun is probably the one you can least afford to screw up. Except for a derringer but that is because the prior owner dry fired it which you are to never do. The take down lever is actually easy to use once get use to it. Its almost like clockwork, at about the 5th round itll turn the shell sideways then the returning bolt will grab it. AND, NAA has first class warranty service. I would love to meet you and show you what your are NOT talking about. Com-block mack chambered pistols, walthers, and the like just have better reliability w/ less break in. Nemesis pocket holster, and 1 spare mag, goes everyehere. He paid people to review his book on Amazon. SIG P238 Why Use a .380 Pistol? The Mary Rosh controversy (where Lott used that pseudonym to answer critics and to post one favorable review of More Guns Less Crime) is discussed. I have a brand new Cobra that has never fired a shot ! They fall apart with any kink of volume down range. Funny, I have the SCCY CPX-2 and I love it. Did they succeed? Actually the design was made so that the magazine would not pop out on firing like other small pocket guns are guilty of, use the release correctly and it is a breeze. His post show that he is just posting without knowledge of the firearms. I have put about 2000 rounds through them 100% reliable so far. I have no Idea how this writer came up with this Bottom Feeder nonsense. I. For that reason its got a little too much recoil and im not as accurate with it as i am with my heavier pistols chambered in 9mm and 40 caliber . This only naturally makes it more difficult to fire properly like we just talked about. We saw your review and write up. Baby glocks seem like an attractive option as at least they have a somewhat normal trigger w/ a normal length of pull. Sure, I can see how many people liked or didnt like a firearm, but more important than that is the REASON they voted the way they did. Buy Your Tickets Today! Basically I hate these guns because I hate these guns, and you should too because I do. This is the closest I have ever been to accusing TTAG of pandering to the highest advertising contributors (i. e. not a SINGLE Taurus gun on here? However it is not any where near the build quality of the Beretta Pico. How many times does anyone complain about a bad trigger in a self defense situation? Stovepiped and double fed left and right, and Kel-Tec didnt want to lift a finger without me footing the bill for shipping. Web.380 Automatic Colt Pistol (ACP) was one of the many calibers created by legendary firearms designer John Browning, dating back to 1908. Have owned and shot most of them. WebSome derringers, like the Bond Arms derringers, are brilliantly crafted guns. Remarkable build quality. Anonymous reviews should be taken VERY suspiciouslyof all product, not just guns. Recoil was worse on the 380 than the 9. Wonder if SCCY will give you a deal on a trade in for that one ? I some what question these results mainly because I own one of the guns on this list. Ive put plenty of rounds through my p3at and its reliable. Do not yank the magazine friends. And of course not break down like they do with high volume shooting. I think by nature all auto pocket pistols suck. I would buy one if I needed another inexpensive backup carry gun. Using that, Ive compiled a spreadsheet of the resultsby filtering down 200+ subcompact handguns, first by caliber (nothing weaker than .380 ACP), and then by size (nothing bigger than 5.77 long x 4.4 tall).That left 44 semi-autos, which I sorted by each guns average user rating. Thats a problem for a pocket gun. Super gun, works every time. I bought it after reading the review on TTAG. Can't argue with Sig, but I'd also add Beretta to that list, both the They sent me a replacement gun that wouldnt chamber the 1st round. Even though its not made anymore, Ive been interested in trying out a Taurus PT638 if I ever ran across one for a reasonable price, anyone have any experience with one? Avoid Straight Blowback pistols These have a barrel permanently affixed to the frame versus the Delayed Blowback pistols, who have a barrel th Recently we exchanged and shot each others weapon, I have a Taurus LCP 380. Worst complaint is the trigger, but a lot of dry fires with snap caps and you condition yourself to the long reset. Great little pistol. Just a BS review to gain clicks and views. Both the front and rear sights are black which can make it difficult to see them if you are aiming against a dark background. Otherwise a worthy imitator of the abandoned Walther PPK. Take the guns in this article, for example: did people downvote them because they were too uncomfortable to fire? .380 pocket pistols are incredibly easy to conceal, and this is what is largely attributed to their long time popularity in the United States. I have received grief for it as well. I trust the Colt, Kahr, and Rugers, but I would like more power. Personally, Id like to see something a little more scientific than a survey since we have no idea if the respondents even handled the firearm. Anything In the Ring of Fire Family. To send it back would cost to much and the internet dealer would not stand behind it !! Must be the best gun ever. Did he shoot various ammo or run them for accuracy. Most people who love the P3-AT just carry it but dont use it. Everything they make are just wrought with problems. It shoots a powerful pistol cartridge in a light gun. Get a Kahr CW380 or P380 and just be done with it cause they really dont get much better for pocket 380 carry IMO. Yes, the LCP II is still a .380 pocket pistol and as a result is still snappy. NOPE! It is not a pleasant gun to shoot, but a helluva lot worse on the receiving end. We even joked that we needed to start a Pocket Gun Palma match. Obviously you really do not get into pocket guns or spend time with folks that do. Got over 1000 rounds through it, and no problems. Safe, small, and gives me some measure of security I wouldnt have without it. Ive never seen one that ran well or was anything but unpleasant to shoot, provided you can get more than one round off without a misfeed. It is considerably lighter and smoother than the original LCP and other comparable .380 pistols, and it also features the Glock-style bladed safety that must first be depressed in order for the trigger to be pulled. Current (and Growing) List of Exhibitors at the Texas Firearms Festival. If you spend any amount of time online, youve seen product rating systems on Amazon, Netflix, Yelp, etc., usually in the form of star ratings. After each guns name, youll see its average user rating, that ratings margin of error and the number of votes: 1) Diamondback Firearms DB380 (4.3 stars 1.0, 25 votes). anyone can vote on any gun whether they own or have even seen the gun in person. The PPK established a defining influence on the design of concealed carry firearms. Kahr CW 380. It pains me to include the DB380 on this list because I bought one acouple years ago. Even the author of this article merely speculates, at times, as to why the readers voted as they did. The biggest improvement, by far, is the trigger pull. Keep the .4 calibers to compact, mid, or full-size. It had some issues ejecting, but a trip to the factory corrected the issues. Ruger LCP II 3. then hold slide to the rear for 1 second before you hear things fall into place? HICKCOCK45 SAID OF THE PICO I really like this trigger. Very very inconsistent across the board for everything they make to not be considered really bad. I own and have tested both the CPX1 (manual safety) and CPX2 (no manual safety). But still, Im sure there are worse ones. This gun is selling better than ever years later. I met Leghorn at a Range Day last year and he knows little about handling a weapon. Trash. You can hire chinese brokers to buy likes on Fakebook, and twitter followers by the thousands. A local guy shot a home invader with a SCCY. Yes it did. Have you ever even shot one? I called the factory and was accused of limp wristing. AMEN . I have a SCCY too. I do feel though that its a little too light for a 9mm caliber . The warranty cant be beat. A 380 is about as wide as a 9mm. However it is about 1/2 as powerful, 1/2 the weight and velocity. For a very long time 9mm was considered the rock It seems like the all metal euro pistols of yester-year beat the new models in spades. and wrote the entire line off. How is the pot metal Cobra #2? Trigger sucked. Ill definitely be checking it out. either love or hate. In 2017, SIG Sauer produced a unicorn of a pistol in the P365. Ruger sought out to remedy much of these problems with the LCP II. I sell guns and have ZERO hesitation about selling someone a CPX-2 for everyday carry. Beretta has been making guns for over 500 years and nice guns. That would be TTAG, and a handful of others. Keep up the good work Jed, and thanks for the article. I like the concept at least. I have thousands of rounds through both and they keep on trucking One gun has 5000 rounds with just one failure with all kinds of ammo and that was a bad primer strike, which by the way the Pico has double strike capability which took care of that. Generally the heavier it is the less recoil. But people usually get .380 to conceal them. If you just care about recoil the Berretta cheeta is a go I love shooting it, and I get closer groups than with my Kel-Tec P-11. It works great if all it does is sit in your pocket. Man this Truth about guns article really burns me up. SRP: $269. Because they unreasonably expected to consistently hit a bullseye at 50 yards with a pocket pistol? But this article should be called Articles to avoid like the Plague. I had an occasional ejection glitch in mine when I first got it, but the company paid to have it shipped back to them for adjustment, and the piece hasnt hiccupped a single time, since. I own a SCCY CPX-2. I am no statistician but most of the sample sizes were very small. The price is right, but the performance and ratings just arent. Sig without question is the "Caddilac". Standing out as one of the smallest on this list, Kahr isnt a I have not had to use them as my SCCY has functioned perfectly so far. The Beretta Tomcat, though only .32, much fatter, and blowback, is a far, far superior gun. The CW380 sucks. Do they now have 12 round mags? My Cpx 2 is not 100% reliable, but I did not expect it to be for $250. Hey, look I would bet my life on this smallish, nice looking pistol. I got a Glock26, and have been happy ever since! Makes me question the authors intentions in this article. Sure just Its not that the gun is too small, its that the trigger is much too close to the tiny grip. If there is what looks like an empty hole its uncocked. It is light and works. what a waste of time. The .380 ACP semi-automatic pistol is one of the most popular categories of concealed carry weapons in the United States and has been for years. Also it would be great to know if the people voting own the guns they are rating and/or if they have ever shot them. +1 Mag Extensions are the only change to it. 3) SCCY Industries CPX-2(4.3 stars 0.4, 99 votes). I am a Pocket gun enthusiast. Thats whats currently on my hip and I love it. its a good resource with a lot of basic info on a LOT of handguns, a good start for anyone looking at a first gun, for example, or a second, for that matter. Its a joy to shoot. I bought a used SCCY CPX-2. Once in a great while, a firearm becomes so popular that it becomes a cultural icon. WebThe Roughneck series of derringers are similar in appearance to the well-known Bond Arms Backup models, but are more affordable. Im pretty surprised the P3AT isnt on this list. Whatever-everything else pops inand their FB page is odd too. They are all solid, dependable, and reliable. Its elegant lines and precision engineering have a timeless appeal. I have been shooting pocket guns for years. No issues to complain about. These guns shoot any ammo I have fed it. I also feel the cw380 has very minimal recoil vs other small 380s in its same size. I have several friends who own Picos and swear by them. Extremely Mild, Plus P rated, Modular design, mags that look like Custom 1911 stainless steel. LMFAO!!!! http://virtualchick.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/unicorn.jpg, http://www.waltherarms.com/wp-content/uploads/ppk-beauty1.jpg, http://www.waltherarms.com/wp-content/uploads/ppk-beauty2.jpg, http://www.waltherarms.com/wp-content/uploads/ppk-right.jpg, http://www.waltherarms.com/wp-content/uploads/ppk-left.jpg. Not any more fun to shoot, but at least I dont need a damned pencil to take spent brass out of it. I live in Utah, so in the wintertime its a very high probability that Ill be wearing some type of glove. None. Actually the Hellcat felt better in the hand and was more accurate for me with a better sight than other micro pistols. I also have the Kahr. 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